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The Sedative Trap

neitherday
Date and Time  - May. 19th, 2006, 05:17 pm

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I had a terrible time getting off antipsychotics, the withdrawals were so nasty it would have been helpful to be in a rehab clinic for them except rehab clinics don't take patients addicted to antipsychotics.

Sedatives like Ativan or Klonopin can very tempting when experiencing antipsychotic withdrawals, and patients prescribed antipsychotics are often prescribed sedatives as well. However, I found that more often than not sedatives led to a state where I was so tired I was barely able to move but still could not sleep because of the withdrawals. This state was much worse than going through the withdrawals without the sedatives.

I've seen far too many people fall into this sedative trap while withdrawing from antipsychotics and what often ends up happening is they take more and more sedatives until they actually do fall asleep. But by that time they've taken a lot more sedatives than they should have and someone ends up finding them and calling an ambulance. In the emergency room labeled an "attempted suicide", given charcoal, and sent off to a psych hospital where they are readministered antipsychotics. While they attempt to explain to the staff that suicide was not the motivation in taking the sedatives, their explanations are inevitably dismissed. Sometimes they are actually manipulated into thinking they must have meant to kill themselves even though they don't remember wanting to.

My particular battle was with Geodon, but this scenario can play out with users of virtually any antipsychotic drugs including Abilify, Risperdal, Zyprexa, and Seroquel. Breaking antipsychotic addiction is not easy, but being armed with knowledge can help tremendously.

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From:[info]libertas
Date:May 19th, 2006 - 10:08 pm
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it's really weird, actually. i don't think i ever had any bad feelings/withdrawal symptoms whenever i got off any one of my meds.
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From:[info]catskillmarina
Date:May 19th, 2006 - 11:56 pm

A little known fact...

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Nicotine is a mild anti-psychotic.

On June 1st we are going to quit smoking cigarettes.

Frankly i am scared of this.

When i quit smoking it was very ugly. Sadly we started
back up when we returned from Canada where we got SRS.
Dealing with the border guards was too much....
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From:[info]itzwicks
Date:May 20th, 2006 - 11:08 am

Passing Thru..

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Wow.. I have a kidling who used Geodon as well as Abilify. What problems did you have with them?
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From:[info]neitherday
Date:May 20th, 2006 - 01:41 pm

Re: Passing Thru..

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I had several problems with Geodon and the other antipsychotics that I was on. They completely wrecked my metabolism, I'm weigh much more than I ever did before taking them and find it extremely difficult to impossible to lose the weight again. I was essentially a zombie for too many years, as these drugs work not by attacking symptoms but by simply disabling the brain's functioning.

I found that I could no longer hold intelligent conversations. I couldn't improve because I couldn't think clearly. Eventually I just gave up on the idea that there was a point to anything. I've lost mental abilities I had before I went on antipsychotics that I have been unable to regain, such as being able to visualize in 4D.

I was lucky enough to not suffer some of the nastier side effects such as tardive dyskinesia, neuroleptic malignant syndrome, diabetes, and heart problems; although if I hadn't stopped when I did who knows what would have happened.

I am slightly suspicious that I may have heart problems relating to tardive dyskinesia, but I am not sufficiently concerned to actually go through the hassle of getting it thoroughly checked out. I do strongly suspect, but cannot prove, that the episodes in which I lose coordination and muscle tone were at the very least made worse by my antipsychotics, even if they were not the root cause.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:March 22nd, 2008 - 06:28 pm

Re: Passing Thru..

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My husband stopped taking geodon 1 week ago and he is suffering very severe anxiety, the anxiety started since he started to taper off the medication. he wants to know if you experienced this severe anxiety and for how long? he hopes there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Some times he gets very discouraged and thinks geodon might have caused him permanent brain damage. The anxiety is constant on and off most of the day and night, he lives with a knot on his stomach and he is also kind of obcessive compulsive. He never was this way prior to taking geodon.
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From:[info]neitherday
Date:March 22nd, 2008 - 07:14 pm

Re: Passing Thru..

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The withdrawal effect of Geodon lasted about a week for me, though I have heard others report it took 2 or 3 weeks to get through the withdrawals.

Geodon doesn't cure anything, it just inhibits mental processing. This is why it appears like it's helping people: it reduces "bad" thoughts by reducing all thought. If you picked 10 apples a day and half of them had worms, you end up with 5 wormy apples a day. If you picked less apples, you'd end up with less wormy apples — but you'd also have less good apples.

After the withdrawals are over, your husband will still need to deal with his core issues that Geodon was masking. I would suggest that your husband talk to a non-med-pushing therapist (they do exist) or find a spiritual leader or other reliable person with experience in helping people through personal problems.

From:daffidoll
Date:May 21st, 2006 - 09:38 am
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In the emergency room labeled an "attempted suicide", given charcoal, and sent off to a psych hospital where they are readministered antipsychotics.

yes, exactly. *sigh*