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Holocaust Deaths

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Date and Time  - Jan. 5th, 2007, 12:29 pm

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People don't like to discuss who was killed in the holocaust. People don't like to discuss the fact that a higher percentage of European Roma were killed than of Jews. So thorough was the extermination of the Roma people of Bohemia that the Bohemian Romani dialect went extinct. People don't like to discuss that the gas chambers were originally designed for and operated in mental hospitals as a way of getting rid of the most undesirable undesirables: the mentally ill. People don't like to discuss that gays, "social deviants", Jehovah's Witnesses, communists, Freemasons, and the disabled were all sent to the death camps.

When you include Soviet POWs, political dissidents, various Slavic peoples, and members of "non-Aryan" races and you include the Serbs kill by the Nazi-puppet regime in Croatia – Jewish deaths, while still numbering higher than any one other group, account for a third or less of the holocaust victims. 6 million is the most cited number of holocaust deaths and it is an horrific number on its own, but it only represents the number of Jews killed. The total number of holocaust victims will never be exactly known, detailed records simply don't exist. But when taking into account all the victims, that number is in the neighborhood of 18 to 20 million.

The crimes of the Nazis against the Jews should not be forgotten, nor should they be downplayed. However, the crimes of the Nazis were not only against Jews — they were crimes against humanity.

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From:[info]rosethornn
Date:January 5th, 2007 - 05:38 pm
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I agree with you. Many people see the Holocaust as "Nazis killing Jews". While this was true, they also killed many, many other minority groups during their reign. These are unfairly understated.
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From:[info]qassandra
Date:January 5th, 2007 - 09:29 pm
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I remember saying to my grad school advisor that the branches of my family that didn't get out of Europe before WWII were largely exterminated, and his response was "I didn't know you were Jewish." *sigh*
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From:[info]lonelylabrat
Date:January 5th, 2007 - 09:48 pm
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its true.
i think maybe people dont like to admit when crimes against humanity are made, because everyone has that one secret that they feel like, "if someone knew this, they would hate me"... i think people like us, who are trans and crazy and have been abused over and over... (and not just trans or crazy people, but people like us who have more than one count against us by societies judgements) are not as surprized by crimes against humanity, because we know them to be true. Its easier for people to not see it if they dont know first hand that it happens
From:[info]electricube
Date:January 6th, 2007 - 09:08 am
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Haha, I totally thought you were Lonely L.A. Brat (which is great if you ever go there... which, now that I'm thinking about it, I advise against.)
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From:[info]subliculous
Date:January 6th, 2007 - 02:31 am
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here from a link, i agree with your points. my mom's side of the family were refugees that came over during the assyrian genocide during WW1, the turks and kurds were killing them. no one ever talks about that. when i've mentioned any kind of genocide i'll either get a "yeah, right" kind of look or something about "not being jewish". it's the only thing they equate the word with.
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From:[info]riga_mortia
Date:January 6th, 2007 - 07:50 am
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I miss you darling, give me a call someday soon!:)
From:[info]electricube
Date:January 6th, 2007 - 09:06 am
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damn straight.
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From:[info]hick0ry
Date:January 7th, 2007 - 03:19 am
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The one thing that really bothers me is the fact the no detailed records exist. I mean, the Nazi's had cross-indexed receipts for toilet paper and paper clip consumption, they had detailed records on everything. Except this. Now, there's any number of people that point to this as evidence that the whole thing was exaggerated Allied propaganda, and while i suppose possible, that's not what I'm suggesting. Rather, everyone involved knew that what they were doing was wrong, and that they mustn't leave the usual records. This isn't the omission of a horde of drones just following orders (where are the records of those orders then, anyway?), this is the behavior of a vast criminal conspiracy. One of the size we're all told is the impossible figment of paranoids lest we revolt against it.
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From:[info]hyakynthos
Date:January 20th, 2007 - 05:21 am
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Maybe they did an Enron?